Benjamin is 30 years old. More precisely, 29. "but not for long," as he jokes himself. He is the dog hunter, although he never calls. Seems rather volunteer, which in its time is content from running cats first in Moscow, and then in Kharkiv, far he relocated almost two years ago to live and work.
This interview I took a few months ago, but did not dare to publish due to recent events with the arson of shelters. I in no way condone the actions of the hunters. More than this, they seem to me wild and unacceptable. On the other hand, I am extremely against stray dogs. I have been attacked several times by dogs in the city and I know what it is. Fortunately, in Moscow stray dogs have virtually disappeared. I am also against most dogs, especially fighting breeds, at home. Problem dogs should be handled by the state. If it cannot be sterilized and contain the stray dogs. let support private shelters. In each city there are people who care about animals and it is normal, they should be supported simply.
But there are people with a different point of view. Meet with Benjamin in the Moscow "Dining room № 1" on the River. I have never seen a dog hunter, so many questions.
Your occupation is accompanied by a lot of critics. For example, the most important argument is that not only stray dogs, but also domestic dogs, or even children, are etched.
This is nonsense, is a fierce delirium, I'll be honest.
I mean such precedents you do not know personally?
I don't know. And if at least one such precedent was that the area would be cordoned off, there would come the cool guys in masks and looking for some serious toxic chemicals. But whatever this was, this must be some sarin to poison, but not (our) drugs.
And you are confused by stray dogs or Pets?
Homeless
And when does a household eat this?
How can they eat that?
Well, here she runs around without a leash, sniffing everything, boar-boar – and all. The mass of cases, when…
Well, first, I give the dogs immediately in the mouth, or rather, in front of the dog throw to eat and all. So I don't know how a domestic dog could eat…
Well, here lay the sausage was poisoned or something.
Well, I don't mind that.
So you're not doing this?
No, I understand the spreading of poisoned sausage on industrial zones, in places like this. And, roughly speaking, the person who throws the poisoned food at the dog Park, well, it's kind of a little bit wrong. Why domestic dogs to poison. You know, there's a definition of a stray dog, even if it's domestic. If the dog goes without a leash, without a muzzle, next to no master, it is a stray dog. Logically? Whether it is at least three times master, she still has stray. And if she's the owner of a schlubby guy who doesn't care about the fact that his dog runs as he wants, it is his fault really.
Do you know any real cases of criminal prosecution of so-called hunters?
About one case I heard: in Kiev the dude put. But he's an outspoken moron. Baiting of stray dogs is not a felony at all, it's not even administrativka. To make it a criminal case need the applicant. And have homeless dogs can be the applicant? No.
Well, here I once cut down: the fool, asleep, drunk, homeless blogowogo drank...And there was a seasoned animal rights activist. She in the course of "shiz" a little bit in my head. She panicked, wrote on the Internet what I had injected the dog with poison. I at all stunned from this. But people looked, listened to it and understood that inadequate it is the person. But a couple of people signed up with her and they went to the police I such a sadist to write a statement. And wrote a statement, and the statement have not accepted. They let the police to swear, saying, why are you not taking. And the police have asked loud and clear: "who is the owner of the dog?» - No. That's it. "Let's say goodbye."
What made you want to do this?
I somehow in the childhood was bitten by a dog, but for me it does not affected. I just don't want them in the city. But in Moscow as something with this problems already there is no almost. And I here moved to Kharkov. And there were so many dogs in my neighborhood. And to go outside was dangerous, even to adult men attacked the pack. I had to do something about it.
Here, even if the law to see how we have arranged. The dog is the property of the man, the dog has no rights, responsibilities, nothing. If the person is his property threw, put, say, a bag of groceries and went somewhere to walk there, probably only he's an idiot, if this bag will gut or even swept away. Also a dog: if you throw it, like, let my property very haunting as he wants, then who is to blame for the fact that this property has something happened?
Describe in a nutshell, why are you doing this all the time?
Believe me, I do not go, do not seek out these dogs somewhere on gates, I do not need and no pleasure. I just have the neighborhood where I live. I want that dog was not wandering, not barked at me and did not rush. That's all. Here's my idea. That's why I'm doing it. It can be done by municipal services, but they can't make it even under the law. The legislation we are so well written that dogs have rights. Well, that is not mean, but in fact it turns out that the utilities do not have the right to kill them.
Here in Kharkiv before the Euro tried the utility dogs ease. Such a panic has risen, just before the criminal case is not reached. I had to hire the city authorities these doghunters. Children came from Russia, from all Ukraine, from Belarus. They were paid money to these dogs quickly povypilivali. And housing and communal services at most than help, it corpses clean.
What about the shelters where the dogs are put to sleep? And there are also some utility services to for catching?
There is no such. Here in Kharkov built one shelter, but no use of it. At all at us housing and communal services can't make anything, I will repeat. But we are all supporters of the idea: to catch the dog, cut off her eggs and then let out. But it's all for nothing. I don't care if she has eggs or not, if she bites me with her teeth.
But what about the argument that a neutered dog is less likely to attack? What she has no, say so, "sexual aggression"?
These arguments in this case not roam, because some dogs become less aggressive, and some – more aggressive. I do not remember the exact data, I had somewhere to study this part, but the percentage does not change after castration. And the second – they breed so quickly and live on all cracks that they are physically impossible to sterilize all. Let in this pack there will be five sterilized and five non-sterilized dogs. This pack is all the same will soon grow to 20-30 snouts. Still will be divided into two-three packs, and everything will be on new.
I remember the moment my Cup of patience overflowed. I'd just moved to Kharkov, and we have another wardrobe dragged together to a new apartment. It was cold, the wardrobe was heavy, we were dragging him together, all hands are busy. And then from all sides that run these dog schooling. See the hands busy and begin to bite at your heels. And here is the Cabinet put the dogs begin to drive away, pieces of ice be dropped. Then again, a hundred meters of the wardrobe will suffer, and again discarded. And here is so we records has been going. After that, I decided they weren't gonna be here.
How many years ago was the case?
A little less than a year and a half.
And how everything turned out for the first time?
Well, after that Cabinet I surfed the Internet, found the thematic resources, looked at the recipe and all. Well, plus there was instruction, technology. The most difficult thing was to find **** (antibiotic, anti-TB drug). Usually come, and there was one or two packs.
This is all the hunters are snapping up?
Well, Yes. I've even heard stories that some pharmacies are on duty these zoophiles, animal defenders, look who buys this.
What about the stories about the poisoning of children ***?
Delirium. Children can not be etched with an antibiotic. They're being treated. And in other parts too, nothing. Reglan, for example, simply antiemetic. For reliability, you can add citramon or Pentalgin. Pentalgin steeper: the dog then feels good, does not even try to do anything bad. And there are no prohibited components. All these hooks, strychnine, these methods ... it's not usually doghunters work like that, but grown-up men. For example, my grandfather granddaughter was bitten by someone, the grandfather found in the pantry at the strychnine 68-year fishing hooks welded chicken broth from some scraps. I made some traps out of it, I went and scattered somewhere. And he doesn't even care what dogs do. And left with feeling of the fulfilled state debt. The people of that time relate at all to such things is easier than modern hipsters.
To such methods, you yourself are?
If it makes my grandfather, who's 65 years old, I don't care. He does what he can with his attitude, and that's his attitude. But if it makes some people directed – if he knows that the dog can quickly and accurately cut with the help of "isika", but he deliberately goes to a tightening – I think it's wrong. That's stupid. If someone gets from killing a dog fun, but it's still a pathology. The common man derives pleasure not from killing dogs, but from the fact that he walks around his neighborhood and could sit sit quietly on the bench, smoke or children be kept and nobody will bite. Will not *busisa dogs near the Playground.
Zoosisa usually says that children see dogs die. Although they usually die completely: fall and no longer rise. But in my memory there was a case. It was in the autumn. Go crazy and hear the roar and screech. Suited to a children's Playground and next to her two dogs, standing and unable to disengage, well, they have usually the case. Children are worth, on this all look. And then on the other hand runs a huge dog, preparatoty such. And here he is at full speed crashes into the two of them, tears them, has already lifted some kind of ultrasonic squeal...And he immediately that bitch starts continue to tear. And children look. Well, that's what they should be looking at? On it or like a dog just laid down and never got up?